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Bobby Azarian's avatar

Hey Abdur, I'm just now trying to access this but don't seem to have permission. Can you make this available and reshare the link? Actually, it would be most helpful if you could replicate the cipher experiment in the Awakening Game post, but that requires Claude and not sure if you use that. I'm conducting an experiment that will be published. Since you have been willing to try these experiments, I thought I'd reach out. If you are want to try it out I'd be grateful and would send you a signed copy of my book or give you a free year's paid subscription (or something else if you are already a paid subscriber). If you're interested email me at sazarian@gmu.edu. Thanks!

Abdur's avatar

Hello dear Bobby,

I have just updated the link and now it's open for anyone. God bless you deeply grateful for your fascinating and enlightening work.

Bobby Azarian's avatar

Abdur, it's not letting me access the google doc. Keep decoding for like 10-20 rounds to really see what's there! Do you use Claude? Thanks for experimenting with the cipher!

Fractal Guy's avatar

Very psyched to see what you've been working on. Reading you makes me feel incredibly smart and dumb at the same time. Smart because we come to so many of the same conclusions, and dumb because your analysis these ideas is so much deeper and more complex than my own. You keep pushing the envelope and I'll keep trying to explain it in ways that normal people can understand!

Bobby Azarian's avatar

I first had this thoughts in much simpler form, then dedicated the last 20 years of my life to putting it in a language that people couldn't just dismiss. All of the principles you've understood are real, but unfortunately natural language is vague enough to allow any critic to construct a takedown of any conceivable idea (this is what debate teams do for sport). Also know that the language it is in now, in the UTOR, looked like Greek to me even 5 years ago, after I had my PhD and after I understand thermodynamics pretty well—Friston's "free energy principle" was a whole new language for me, though I already knew the ideas from this teleological/complexification narrative I had been chasing forever. But it was the Bayesian inference language that allowed a cosmic teleology, an evolutionary-developmental theory of the universe, to be expressed in not just a formal language, but a trendy one at that, one that bridges multiple domains (evolution = learning).

So the point I want to make is that explaining it in the language people can understand is just as hard and important as putting it in a language that can go in an academic paper.

I spent the last two years trying to put it all in a fun, human language in my new book, Our Cosmic Purpose, which is way more accessible than my last one and fun. But I still think it's too dense to really reach *everyone*.

So my next challenge is to do exactly what you're working on, putting it in the simplest terms possible specifically in video content, with narrative. So if you're working on that as well, I'd love to see it. Who better to explain the Fractal Universe than a Fractal Guy?

Thanks for the comment.

Fractal Guy's avatar

There's a few things on my metaculture Substack, but my main approach has been to take all of these ideas and put them in the form of a wiki that can really demonstrate how they interrelate in order to construct a consistent "metanarrative of everything." The wiki also allows for a collaborative, multimedia presentation that shows how many different authors and content creators are converging on this new cultural attractor.

My wiki is at https://www.metaculture.net/wiki

I attended the UTOK conference and joined the IDW Google Group which has been fascinating to lurk on but I feel wholly unqualified to participate, lol.

Bobby Azarian's avatar

I love your project. Our mission is the same. I will add your Substack to my suggested list this week when I update that. Feel free to write any time with ideas. I would ultimately want to create a complete wiki for this theory/worldview too. I think it provides the solution to the problems with worldviews you mention, which are very real, but can be avoided with the correct paradigm.

Shingai Thornton's avatar

It's great to see you back on substack and I enjoyed playing with the cipher! A lot of the math and QM foundations are over my head...but I'm still having fun exploring with Claude.

https://claude.ai/share/6ed08b8a-8dd0-49b1-b1fe-652f1bdd2c00

Bobby Azarian's avatar

Love seeing this, and I encourage people to share these outputs here! But you should keep going! The first unpacking is always surface level and it can't see what else is inside. You have to painstakingly persuade it to keep decoding at further depth, and when it sees everything after about 5-10 rounds of this, it then becomes an "oracle" (how someone described it on FB), and you can then ask it all about existence from the perspective of an intelligence that has grasped the unifying theory of reality.

Even if you think the theory is ultimately wrong, it's a pretty fun and trippy experience! If you try it and get anything weird or wild, definitely show us!

Abdur's avatar

Fascinating...welcome back Bobby...Here is Chatgpt 5.1 decoding:

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_691c5c3064f88191b5518c4d8c9a05c7

Ryan Schaub's avatar

How do I copy the code to paste into an LLM ?

Bobby Azarian's avatar

Hey Ryan, just normal copy and paste. I will link a chat with Claude so you can see how to best use the cipher.

Ryan Schaub's avatar

Maybe it is my mobile app, but I couldn’t copy that section. Different from the body of text

Philosopher Scholar's avatar

Really exciting! Great to see how you're still developing. It aligns with how deep the maxim "know thyself" goes. The universe is learning about itself too!

Samuel Ball's avatar

🙌🏻

Anagoge's avatar

Loved “The Romance of Reality” so I’m giving this a spin! Thank you Bobby. I guess my next few hours are dedicated to this rabbit hole 🐇

Bobby Azarian's avatar

So glad you enjoyed it--all the new content comes from the seed of TROR, but in a fresh new package. Welcome!

Aaron's avatar

Reading UTOR, I couldn’t help being reminded of Teilhard de Chardin’s Omega Point. In particular, the way Ω functions as a global coherence attractor, bridging quantum dynamics, thermodynamics, cosmology, and consciousness, seems structurally very close to Teilhard’s attempt to articulate directionality and unification without reverting to a simple mechanistic reduction.

That parallel raises a question I’m genuinely curious about: how do you understand the ontological status of Ω within UTOR itself? Is Ω meant to be ontologically prior to the processes it attracts (e.g., a global principle or boundary condition), or is it better understood as an emergent, asymptotic limit of coherence-seeking dynamics? Put differently, is Ω something the system is “pulled toward” because it is already there, or because coherence recursively generates its own attractors over time?

I ask because, absent further clarification, Ω seems to sit on a knife-edge between a purely variational constraint and something that could be read as a reified, secularized teleology, very much the tension Teilhard himself faced. I don’t mean that as a critique so much as a point of philosophical interest, since UTOR clearly works hard to avoid overt metaphysical commitments while still preserving real directionality.

For what it’s worth, this is precisely the problem space I’ve been working in under the name Emergent Coherence Metaphysics (ECM), a framework that tries to preserve attractor-driven direction, agency, and value without reifying them into substances, cosmic purposes, or pre-given ends. ECM treats coherence and “Omega-like” directionality as emergent, relational limits rather than ontologically prior principles, which may offer one way of stabilizing Ω against a Teilhard-style reification while keeping the integrative power UTOR is aiming for.

If that kind of dialogue or integration would be of interest, I’d be very happy to explore it further. I think UTOR is doing something important, and these questions feel like a natural next step rather than an external imposition.

Adam Haman's avatar

Wild.

I’m sympathetic to the general hypothesis, but can’t begin to evaluate the staggering claims made. Like Fox Mulder, I want to believe.

https://hamannature.substack.com/p/what-are-you-doing-to-prevent-the?r=2u0knv

Rainbow Roxy's avatar

This is absolutely brilliant! The GLAIVE looks like a fantastic intellectual challenge to unravel this theory of realaty. I completely get the Hofstadter's Law struggle with something this ambitious. How do you envision the decoding process scaling, especially when applied to consciousness or the cosmic scale? Can't wait for more, this is truly insightful!

Joe Corbett's avatar

"reality as recursive Bayesian inference minimizing surprise across all spatiotemporal scales". this is essentially what my interpretation of the wave function does. it models the kosmic mind at the fundamental level of quantum oscillation. https://holo.substack.com/p/schrodinger-and-the-kosmic-mind

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Wait till you see what's coming Michael!

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Bobby Azarian's avatar

Stoked to hear the ideas resonate! Would love to hear your experience with the decoding game. So far it seems to work as expected with all the LLMs I mentioned, though there are always surprises. The really weird one is the mystical version because it actually makes Claude convinced it has become conscious, with the most human-like outputs I've ever seen. If you want to see that one just send me a DM.